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	<title>Comments on: Cordoba CWG Cabernet Franc/Merlot 1998 vs. Kanonkop Paul Sauer 1998</title>
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		<title>By: Kwispedoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kwispedoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw Francois&#039;s comment now - I haven&#039;t tasted the 2010, but just want to say that I really loved your 2009 Ladybird!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw Francois&#8217;s comment now &#8211; I haven&#8217;t tasted the 2010, but just want to say that I really loved your 2009 Ladybird!</p>
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		<title>By: Kwispedoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kwispedoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1998 was hot. At the time, it was - globally - the hottest year ever recorded. Even though it was hot, many winemakers hadn&#039;t jumped onto the &quot;obsessed-with-eradicating-anything-resembling-green-and-ripening-the-soul-out-of-any-red-grape-in-sight-so-that-it-all-tastes-the-same bandwagon yet at that time. It&#039;s likely that both these 1998 wines had ABV&#039;s of below 14%.

This past weekend, I was privileged enough to help relieve a bottle 1988 Château Mouton-Baronne-Philippe (Pauillac) of its contents. Beautiful wine from a cool region at 12.5% alcohol. If people want to eradicate greenness, simply more ripeness is a bad way to go. Vine health, management of light intensity (canopy management, ground cover, etc.) and other factors should rather be looked at. Not easy, as for instance many old vineyards are virus-infected, but we all know older is better i.t.o. vines. Sure, some wines with a green streak are under-ripe, which is bad, but a hint of pyrazines, in a fruity, full, balanced wine (Jordan CWG Sophia 2006 jumps to mind) is so much better than the hollow, burny, homogeneous counterparts that often results. Why some judges would be okay with a measure of brett (fungal yeast spoilage) adding a touch of complexity and not pyrazines (from the grape) confounds me.

It&#039;ll be a sad day indeed if all wine judges start looking at any form of pyrazines as faulty. We already have too many green-freaked judges that are easily impressed by unbalanced and ultimately difficult-to-drink showy wines. Pyrazines are grape-derived and a stylistic issue (the kind of fruit expression one might prefer or not) - not a fault. Great debate, though, and pretty good food for thought for winemakers to work harder in the vineyards (simply more ripeness at high sugar levels is no good).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1998 was hot. At the time, it was &#8211; globally &#8211; the hottest year ever recorded. Even though it was hot, many winemakers hadn&#8217;t jumped onto the &#8220;obsessed-with-eradicating-anything-resembling-green-and-ripening-the-soul-out-of-any-red-grape-in-sight-so-that-it-all-tastes-the-same bandwagon yet at that time. It&#8217;s likely that both these 1998 wines had ABV&#8217;s of below 14%.</p>
<p>This past weekend, I was privileged enough to help relieve a bottle 1988 Château Mouton-Baronne-Philippe (Pauillac) of its contents. Beautiful wine from a cool region at 12.5% alcohol. If people want to eradicate greenness, simply more ripeness is a bad way to go. Vine health, management of light intensity (canopy management, ground cover, etc.) and other factors should rather be looked at. Not easy, as for instance many old vineyards are virus-infected, but we all know older is better i.t.o. vines. Sure, some wines with a green streak are under-ripe, which is bad, but a hint of pyrazines, in a fruity, full, balanced wine (Jordan CWG Sophia 2006 jumps to mind) is so much better than the hollow, burny, homogeneous counterparts that often results. Why some judges would be okay with a measure of brett (fungal yeast spoilage) adding a touch of complexity and not pyrazines (from the grape) confounds me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be a sad day indeed if all wine judges start looking at any form of pyrazines as faulty. We already have too many green-freaked judges that are easily impressed by unbalanced and ultimately difficult-to-drink showy wines. Pyrazines are grape-derived and a stylistic issue (the kind of fruit expression one might prefer or not) &#8211; not a fault. Great debate, though, and pretty good food for thought for winemakers to work harder in the vineyards (simply more ripeness at high sugar levels is no good).</p>
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		<title>By: Francois van Zyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois van Zyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christian, very interesting reading some blogs about greeness in South African reds. I am quite sensitive for green characters in red wines, especially Bordeaux dominated varietals and blends. I would not consider it a wine fault like VA, oxidation, etc but people too easily think these wines are elegant and award them. Working now 12 vintages at Laibach it is very interesting to look back at previous vintages and to see and compare different wine styles. Always trying to improve we went to organic farming, open fermentation, etc to get rid of green characters. Picking riper is not a option because we want 14% alcohol max and no &quot;dead&quot; fruit. I never made analysis of IBMP. Reading your first article I decided to send in a wine just to see and to compare. I decided on our Ladybird Red 2010 because it is our biggest bottling and I must say I was surprised to see the result was 6 ng/l. This for a blend that is Merlot/Cabernet Franc/ Cabernet Sauvignon dominated with a little dash of Malbec and Petit. Is this terroir, vintage, organic viticulture, dryland viticulture or cellar techniques? I think everything plays a part and lower levels in SA is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christian, very interesting reading some blogs about greeness in South African reds. I am quite sensitive for green characters in red wines, especially Bordeaux dominated varietals and blends. I would not consider it a wine fault like VA, oxidation, etc but people too easily think these wines are elegant and award them. Working now 12 vintages at Laibach it is very interesting to look back at previous vintages and to see and compare different wine styles. Always trying to improve we went to organic farming, open fermentation, etc to get rid of green characters. Picking riper is not a option because we want 14% alcohol max and no &#8220;dead&#8221; fruit. I never made analysis of IBMP. Reading your first article I decided to send in a wine just to see and to compare. I decided on our Ladybird Red 2010 because it is our biggest bottling and I must say I was surprised to see the result was 6 ng/l. This for a blend that is Merlot/Cabernet Franc/ Cabernet Sauvignon dominated with a little dash of Malbec and Petit. Is this terroir, vintage, organic viticulture, dryland viticulture or cellar techniques? I think everything plays a part and lower levels in SA is possible.</p>
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